"THEY MADE ME GRAY" (autovox-is-the-one)
08/09/2014 at 05:25 • Filed to: diesel cars
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"THEY MADE ME GRAY" (autovox-is-the-one)
08/09/2014 at 05:25 • Filed to: diesel cars | 1
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Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> THEY MADE ME GRAY
08/09/2014 at 05:35 |
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"it can take diesel owners around eight years of driving before they see any financial benefit from that so-called efficiency." Well I bought mine at the right age then, being that it's 9 years old.
I agree with the utter bullshit that is our tax system. I pay £30 on my diesel that occasionally throws out soot when I floor it. My girlfriend's 1 litre box costs £130 a year. Other than CO2 I would imagine her car is better in every way for the environment. Hell my 2 stroke scooter cost only £15 a year and that spewed blue smoke out everywhere it went. Most modern cars will be much less harmful.
Diesels have their advantages, mine is simply because it was the most powerful engine offered on the car and the fuel economy is excellent. My parents use them because they're better for towing too. However we buy used so the first owner still gets screwed with the premium over a petrol, which we avoid.
Klaus Schmoll
> THEY MADE ME GRAY
08/09/2014 at 05:40 |
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Same here in Germany. At first they bully everybody into buying diesels, now they are punishing them for it.
BATC42
> THEY MADE ME GRAY
08/09/2014 at 06:10 |
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10 years ago when you were looking for a car with great fuel economy, diesel was the reasonable choice. I get around 6.5L/100km in my 15 year old diesel, I don't think at the time we had a petrol engine that achieved the same kind of performance.
But now, it's a different story. Sure diesel engines are still more efficient than their petrol counterparts, but not by much. The way I see it diesel makes sense when you're driving 20k km or more a year or when you need the extra torque (as Car Guy, Panda Tamer is saying in another comment).
Otherwise no reason to buy diesel, especially if governments start to tax diesel the same way they tax petrol (that's what they want to do in France).
I think the next generation of engine it going to change lots of things. Euro6 diesel engines will be more efficient and emit less toxic gasses, diesel are finally going to be "clean" (even if it has been increasingly better these past few years, especially with particules filter technology, see PSA's FAP for instance). But at the same time they will be more binding since you will need to add AdBlue in your car (just like Mercedes BlueTec cars).
ja9ae
> THEY MADE ME GRAY
08/09/2014 at 06:19 |
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I previously bought diesels because I did high mileage (30k+ a year), but I havn't had to drop much below this before cost savings from efficiency were lost to higher servicing costs etc. Now I'm down to less than 20k miles per year, it makes no sense and I'm switching to petrol at the end of the year. Although, probably to V8 petrol (In the UK!) but that's a future thread. :)
Svend
> THEY MADE ME GRAY
08/09/2014 at 07:05 |
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I've always known of the trade off with petrol and diesel (it's what I elected to study in further education) and only got a petrol car because the price was right and with it being only a 1.4TSi it fitted in on tax and mileage but always had in mind to get either the 1.6TDi or 2.0TDi in couple of years time but as we don't do that many miles and now towns, cities and the government wanting to increase the tax and impose higher congestion charges on them it won't be any hardship to stick with another 1.4TSi or go for a 1.8TSi should the need for more performance take hold but shouldn't think so.
duurtlang
> Klaus Schmoll
08/09/2014 at 07:35 |
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It's hard to be a diesel owner in Germany now, it seems. You can't enter certain cities with your 8 year old Passat/Transporter, yet my old 1991 Golf would be allowed without any modification and many gasoline powered cars from the 1980s would only need a minor modification.
tromoly
> THEY MADE ME GRAY
08/09/2014 at 13:08 |
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